Spidersnaps: Take three
Apr. 9th, 2022 07:55 pmThe first I heard of the idea of using cinema film for shooting stills was in the context of "fake Fujifilm film that can mess up photo labs", in the exact words of this 2019 Petapixel article warning about cartridges containing cinema film, which, well, read the headline again :-) Turns out using cinema film for still photography is both a) a legitimate thing, and b) nothing new, since according to Wikipedia, the now-defunct Seattle FilmWorks had been doing this since 1978, calling their supposedly proprietary processing method "SFW-XL"... In fact, they were using Kodak's standard motion picture film processing method, known as ECN-2, and it's gotten to the point that there are even companies putting out kits for home developers (!)
And as it happens, Thailand happens to be teeming with ECN-2 film dev labs, more than any other place in the world if this page from Analog Amsterdam is of any indication :-) That said, the lab that processed my first two rolls said that they process cinema film as C-41 (the usual color film method; presumably after cleaning off the "remjet" layer that normally makes cinema film mess up photo labs), though there are a few other labs in the area who, when I asked, said they do the proper ECN-2 processing, and of course there are many vendors offering re-rolled Kodak Vision3 film in cartridges (some even have rolls of now-discontinued Vision2 and Fuji Eterna) at a lower price than C-41 film, though like with B/W, the processing is more expensive than C-41; however, Matt Wright has provided a spreadsheet to help you determine if bulk-rolled ECN-2 is financially right for you :-)
Anyways, I got myself two rolls of Kodak Vision3 500T (price: USD 5) to pass through my Kodak M35 for a day trip, but as it happened, I only used part of the first roll, so I still had plenty left for shooting other stuff all the way into the new year :-) I got the roll processed at a different lab than my first two rolls in order to get the correct chemistry for it :-)

The first picture to come out... and still partially affected by the exposed leader; normally, two snaps after loading would be enough to get past the exposed leader when loading, but anyways, here's a rickshaw bike at a restaurant in Chonburi (The sign on the seat specifically says it's only for photos, not for sitting on) Accidentally left the flash on, but looks like it was needed anyway

Dinosaurs with Santa hats at Nongnooch Tropical Garden in Pattaya, because a) this was just before Christmas, and b) the garden also includes an exhibit of life-sized dinosaur statues

Giant fish coming out of the lake

Our trip to the gardens included a ride through the various nurseries where all sorts of plants were being grown... and what better to show off color film than colorful flowers? :-)

Elephant at Nongnooch Tropical Garden


A co-working space/bar, and the smartphone version for comparison (The film version is so grainy/underexposed, it blots out the message on the orange sign... With the M35, it seem that even ISO 400 does not have it made in the shade without flash :-\ [my next roll was even more so])

Another shopping mall mini-concert: Different film, same underexposure issues (some of the scans I got straddle the boundary between actual shot frames, that's how underexposed it was)

Tall office building at Chamchuri Square, taken on New Year's Eve

Underground tunnel from Chamchuri Square to Samyan Mitrtown mall had a special disco-style lighting decor for December, and even with flash, is still quite a bit on the poorly-lit side (normally the tunnel is brightly-lit)

Signs in Chinatown

Bird playing peekaboo from the roof
And as it happens, Thailand happens to be teeming with ECN-2 film dev labs, more than any other place in the world if this page from Analog Amsterdam is of any indication :-) That said, the lab that processed my first two rolls said that they process cinema film as C-41 (the usual color film method; presumably after cleaning off the "remjet" layer that normally makes cinema film mess up photo labs), though there are a few other labs in the area who, when I asked, said they do the proper ECN-2 processing, and of course there are many vendors offering re-rolled Kodak Vision3 film in cartridges (some even have rolls of now-discontinued Vision2 and Fuji Eterna) at a lower price than C-41 film, though like with B/W, the processing is more expensive than C-41; however, Matt Wright has provided a spreadsheet to help you determine if bulk-rolled ECN-2 is financially right for you :-)
Anyways, I got myself two rolls of Kodak Vision3 500T (price: USD 5) to pass through my Kodak M35 for a day trip, but as it happened, I only used part of the first roll, so I still had plenty left for shooting other stuff all the way into the new year :-) I got the roll processed at a different lab than my first two rolls in order to get the correct chemistry for it :-)

The first picture to come out... and still partially affected by the exposed leader; normally, two snaps after loading would be enough to get past the exposed leader when loading, but anyways, here's a rickshaw bike at a restaurant in Chonburi (The sign on the seat specifically says it's only for photos, not for sitting on) Accidentally left the flash on, but looks like it was needed anyway

Dinosaurs with Santa hats at Nongnooch Tropical Garden in Pattaya, because a) this was just before Christmas, and b) the garden also includes an exhibit of life-sized dinosaur statues

Giant fish coming out of the lake

Our trip to the gardens included a ride through the various nurseries where all sorts of plants were being grown... and what better to show off color film than colorful flowers? :-)

Elephant at Nongnooch Tropical Garden


A co-working space/bar, and the smartphone version for comparison (The film version is so grainy/underexposed, it blots out the message on the orange sign... With the M35, it seem that even ISO 400 does not have it made in the shade without flash :-\ [my next roll was even more so])

Another shopping mall mini-concert: Different film, same underexposure issues (some of the scans I got straddle the boundary between actual shot frames, that's how underexposed it was)

Tall office building at Chamchuri Square, taken on New Year's Eve

Underground tunnel from Chamchuri Square to Samyan Mitrtown mall had a special disco-style lighting decor for December, and even with flash, is still quite a bit on the poorly-lit side (normally the tunnel is brightly-lit)

Signs in Chinatown

Bird playing peekaboo from the roof