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spiderbraids1x15: Honor Above All / Pushing the Envelope
Unedited: Bloom finds an unmarked envelope on the floor. Bloom thinks it must be the answers to WizGiz's quiz.
Edited: Bloom finds an envelope on the floor. Thanks to a little visual editing, it actually says it's the answers to WizGiz's quiz.
Later on, the Winx have decided to return the envelope. And now, the throwaway comment heard around the world!
Unedited: F (to Musa): "Oh please, give us a break. We all know you're a straight A student." M: "It's true, I did study, but... I've always hated those pop quizzes!" B: "Give it up you two, you always complain about it, and in the end, who gets the best marks? Musa and Flora."
Edited: Bloom's line is replaced so that there is no mention of Flo getting the best grades. The other lines are still in the same gist. (Exact words... F: "I'm sure you'll be fine. You've got the best grades out of all of us!" M: "Yeah I know but... these pop quizzes give me performance anxiety!" B: "C'mon you guys! We're all smart and we should all pass, and who knows? Maybe the test will be really easy!")
Not really edit-related, but... It's sad that the biggest talking point of the whole episode is Flora's throwaway comment, which so totally doesn't mesh with the way cliques on shows like these are built (in a nutshell, techno whiz = straight A student). And the weird thing is, none of the characters (not even Tecna) treat this as if it was unusual! (Imagines Bloom saying, "Yeah, that's weird, I always thought that Tecna would get the best grades...")
The envelope turns out to be mud. Yada yada yada about how cheating is bad.
Unedited: Griz interrupts the proceedings to tell everyone that there will be a meeting on the upcoming Parent-Teacher meetings. After the next ep starts with the Trix creating their troll, quite a bit of is spent with the Winx fretting about the meeting and their parents... and having nightmares about the parents.
Edited: We do not see the Griz announce the meeting, but we see the Trix creating their troll instead, and the next episode starts with the Winx discussing a movie they just watched, rather than the upcoming meeting.
Interesting that 4K is cutting the fat, so to speak...
Responses:
tf: I like the envelope being marked better. If it wasn't marked, it could have been anything like a letter home or a bill to be paid and Bloom should have returned it immediately, not knowing what it was. Knowing for sure that it's the answers takes away that aspect.
(NB: I mentioned this alteration again as a throwaway comment in a review of an S3 episode and TF insisted that without the text on the envelope, "how would they have known NOT to open it? It wouldn't have been such a dilemma if they didn't know what it was. It would have been 'Do we open someone else's mail?' rather than 'Do we cheat on the big test?'" Well, I still think it's not good form for the teachers to implicitly lie to their students, while Frank's review called this test "entrapment")
Imagines Bloom saying, "Yeah, that's weird, I always thought that Tecna would get the best grades..."
If Bloom said that, it would be really insulting to Tecna! I remember being surprised about this when the episode first aired, but now I've grown used to the idea of Musa being the star student. Her being my current favorite fairy, I really like it. It's unusual.
(NB: In the almost two decades since then, they've done nothing with that unexpected deviation from the usual "tech whiz = best grades" trope; they've seemingly contradicted that since as early as S2 :-\)
I like the removal of the parent/teacher meetings. It doesn't seem like a big deal. Also, if they had left them in, there would have had to have been discussion on where Bloom's Earth parents would meet with a teacher, because they can't get to Alfea. Barrier and all that.
Me: Over here, there is a throwaway that may or may not address this: (Bloom crying on Tecna's shoulder) My parents, at Alfea??? I hate these meetings! (the last line of 1x15)
tf: Eh, I don't really think that line of Bloom's solves the problem.
I've since found out many years later that at least one point, the show actually was going to follow through on this setup: According to SirenixComeOn on tumblr, "It seems that Rainbow changed the plot AFTER sending out the ep-summaries to magazines etc., so that many sources still have the old/scrapped plot listed." SirenixComeOn pulled up the page for the episode from the German TV info portal Wunschliste and translated the description, which would actually tie in to the Rai English title for the episode better than what we got: "Stella organized for her birthday a fashion show. She hopes so to bring her divorced parents together at one table at the parent’s meeting. But Stella’s hopes are shattered, when her father shows up with a new lady. The situation is even worse, however: Riven helps the Trix to break into the party, and Icy curses Stella, who turns into an ice statue" Which sounds a lot like the Cassandra plot in S3, except handled better :-)
Another edit regarding the envelope includes some scene swapping: In the original, after Bloom finds the envelope in the hallway, there's a scene of the girls and Kiko looking over Pumpkin!Mirta, which ends with Bloom coming in to show the girls the envelope (and Stella looking smug about it :-)) before showing the envelope on the table in the Winx's dorm, while in 4Kids, we see the girls and Kiko looking over Pumpkin!Mirta first, then it shows Bloom finding the envelope in the hallway, and then it immediately cuts to the envelope already on the table in the Winx's dorm (skipping over Bloom arriving at the dorm and Stella being smug about Bloom's find)
Unedited: Bloom finds an unmarked envelope on the floor. Bloom thinks it must be the answers to WizGiz's quiz.
Edited: Bloom finds an envelope on the floor. Thanks to a little visual editing, it actually says it's the answers to WizGiz's quiz.
Later on, the Winx have decided to return the envelope. And now, the throwaway comment heard around the world!
Unedited: F (to Musa): "Oh please, give us a break. We all know you're a straight A student." M: "It's true, I did study, but... I've always hated those pop quizzes!" B: "Give it up you two, you always complain about it, and in the end, who gets the best marks? Musa and Flora."
Edited: Bloom's line is replaced so that there is no mention of Flo getting the best grades. The other lines are still in the same gist. (Exact words... F: "I'm sure you'll be fine. You've got the best grades out of all of us!" M: "Yeah I know but... these pop quizzes give me performance anxiety!" B: "C'mon you guys! We're all smart and we should all pass, and who knows? Maybe the test will be really easy!")
Not really edit-related, but... It's sad that the biggest talking point of the whole episode is Flora's throwaway comment, which so totally doesn't mesh with the way cliques on shows like these are built (in a nutshell, techno whiz = straight A student). And the weird thing is, none of the characters (not even Tecna) treat this as if it was unusual! (Imagines Bloom saying, "Yeah, that's weird, I always thought that Tecna would get the best grades...")
The envelope turns out to be mud. Yada yada yada about how cheating is bad.
Unedited: Griz interrupts the proceedings to tell everyone that there will be a meeting on the upcoming Parent-Teacher meetings. After the next ep starts with the Trix creating their troll, quite a bit of is spent with the Winx fretting about the meeting and their parents... and having nightmares about the parents.
Edited: We do not see the Griz announce the meeting, but we see the Trix creating their troll instead, and the next episode starts with the Winx discussing a movie they just watched, rather than the upcoming meeting.
Interesting that 4K is cutting the fat, so to speak...
Responses:
tf: I like the envelope being marked better. If it wasn't marked, it could have been anything like a letter home or a bill to be paid and Bloom should have returned it immediately, not knowing what it was. Knowing for sure that it's the answers takes away that aspect.
(NB: I mentioned this alteration again as a throwaway comment in a review of an S3 episode and TF insisted that without the text on the envelope, "how would they have known NOT to open it? It wouldn't have been such a dilemma if they didn't know what it was. It would have been 'Do we open someone else's mail?' rather than 'Do we cheat on the big test?'" Well, I still think it's not good form for the teachers to implicitly lie to their students, while Frank's review called this test "entrapment")
Imagines Bloom saying, "Yeah, that's weird, I always thought that Tecna would get the best grades..."
If Bloom said that, it would be really insulting to Tecna! I remember being surprised about this when the episode first aired, but now I've grown used to the idea of Musa being the star student. Her being my current favorite fairy, I really like it. It's unusual.
(NB: In the almost two decades since then, they've done nothing with that unexpected deviation from the usual "tech whiz = best grades" trope; they've seemingly contradicted that since as early as S2 :-\)
I like the removal of the parent/teacher meetings. It doesn't seem like a big deal. Also, if they had left them in, there would have had to have been discussion on where Bloom's Earth parents would meet with a teacher, because they can't get to Alfea. Barrier and all that.
Me: Over here, there is a throwaway that may or may not address this: (Bloom crying on Tecna's shoulder) My parents, at Alfea??? I hate these meetings! (the last line of 1x15)
tf: Eh, I don't really think that line of Bloom's solves the problem.
I've since found out many years later that at least one point, the show actually was going to follow through on this setup: According to SirenixComeOn on tumblr, "It seems that Rainbow changed the plot AFTER sending out the ep-summaries to magazines etc., so that many sources still have the old/scrapped plot listed." SirenixComeOn pulled up the page for the episode from the German TV info portal Wunschliste and translated the description, which would actually tie in to the Rai English title for the episode better than what we got: "Stella organized for her birthday a fashion show. She hopes so to bring her divorced parents together at one table at the parent’s meeting. But Stella’s hopes are shattered, when her father shows up with a new lady. The situation is even worse, however: Riven helps the Trix to break into the party, and Icy curses Stella, who turns into an ice statue" Which sounds a lot like the Cassandra plot in S3, except handled better :-)
Another edit regarding the envelope includes some scene swapping: In the original, after Bloom finds the envelope in the hallway, there's a scene of the girls and Kiko looking over Pumpkin!Mirta, which ends with Bloom coming in to show the girls the envelope (and Stella looking smug about it :-)) before showing the envelope on the table in the Winx's dorm, while in 4Kids, we see the girls and Kiko looking over Pumpkin!Mirta first, then it shows Bloom finding the envelope in the hallway, and then it immediately cuts to the envelope already on the table in the Winx's dorm (skipping over Bloom arriving at the dorm and Stella being smug about Bloom's find)
